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can tell, is the conditions which the fbi came to read the private e-mails of petraeus and broadwell. the investigation began because jill kelley, an acquaintance of petraeus served as the unpaid liaison in tampa received hostile e-mails that chastised her for flirting with petraeus. kelley complained to an fbi agent and somehow, an fbi investigation into cyber stalking was opened, one that led the fbi to read broadwell's e-mails, then petraeus' and here we are. cyber stalking investigations appear to be rare. thousands of women are cyber stalked every year. the recourse for them is often nothing, which is a problem. ten cases have been prosecuted. somehow in this case, because jill kelly knew a guy, an investigation got opened here. if the thing that decides whether a case is open is someone has an agent's business card, then we are in trouble. in the midst of this coverage, it's difficult to separate it from trivial and the relevant. as gripping as the tale is, it is almost entirely that, a human drama. people acting as people do. i'm reasonably sure, a sweep of e-mails opened at r
follow the facts. we do not share outside the justice department, outside the fbi the facts of ongoing investigations. we made the determination as we were going through the matter that there was not a threat to national security. >> let's jump right in and bring in our friday morning political power panel. we have jackie kucinich political reporter for "usa today", democratic strategist blake zeb and msnbc contributor robert trainum. great to have you all here. we just heard from congressman king earlier today saying the general was asked right off the top whether the affair had an impact on his testimony. he said no. they moved on. but are all indications then that the affair is now a side note and lawmakers are truly focused on what took place in benghazi and the intelligence they have now? >> this very minute, yeah. i think that's the case. will that remain the focus? i don't know. because there's a lot of questions still out there about petraeus and his relationship with his biographer as well as joe kelly in tampa. and general allen. i mean, there are a lot of moving parts here.
and departments that have their hands in the libya affair, cia, dod, state, white house, fbi, i think it's clear that the cia's jurisdiction in a lot of what happened was probably minimal. that makes petraeus's downfall all the more sad, because i think of everyone the cia and david petraeus probably had the cleanest hands in all of this. we have to see. we obviously have plenty more questions going forward. >> to your point, s.e., it shows his resignation was over the extra-marital affair. >> yeah. >> i want to take a step back here on this whole issue. i mean, i think -- let me start by saying that i think the questions about the security at the consulate in benghazi are legitimate questions that deserve investigation. the thing that republicans have really glomed onto is what susan rice said on face the nation. i want to play her comments so we can put that in context. >> i understand you have been saying that you think it was sfont n spontaneous. are we not on the same page here? >> let me tell you what we understand to the assessment at present. first of all, as you discussed with the presi
's an fbi investigation ongoing and that will give us the definitive word on what transpired. but the current assessment is that what happened in benghazi was in fact initially a spontaneous reaction to what had just transpired hours before in cairo. a copycat attack which were prompted of course by the video. >> senator, you said that two days before that, director petraeus said it was terrorism. why didn't ambassador rice call it terrorism two days later? >> because she could speak publicly only on unclassified speaking points. i have some concern with those speaking points. but let me correct one thing. >> right. but what are the concerns and why speak at all? in other words, why was there a reference to it being a terrorist attack taken out of the public talking points? >> that is something that we're going to find out. but it was. that's the point. now, with the allegation that the white house changed those talking points, that is false. there is only one thing that was changed, and i've checked into this. i believe it to be absolute fact. and that was the word" consulat
that i have a lot of confidence generally in the fbi. and they've got a difficult job. it is also possible that had we been told, then you'd be sitting here asking a question about why were you interfering in a criminal investigation. >> while the president withholds judgment, the investigation process is already under scrutiny on capitol hill. the heads of the fbi and the cia, the agenting head right now, mike morel met with them. he's sifting through e-mails between general john allen and jill kelley. it came to light after kelley began receiving anonymous messages in may. thinking she was being stalked, kelley flagged an fbi agent she knew, now identified as fred are dr frederick humphries. a hand full of e-mails between kelley and allen were flagged as inappropriate. however, this source insists there was no affair. allen who has denied any wrongdoing and an affair and whose nomination as supreme commander in europe is on hold has pledged to cooperate with the investigation. meanwhile, the fbi is still trying to wrap up the petraeus incident. they're looking through potential
department, outside the fbi, the facts of ongoing investigations. we made the determination as we were going through the matter, that there was not a threat to national security. had we made the determination that a threat to national security existed, we would, of course, made that known to the president and also to the appropriate members on the hill. >> while questions remain about the fbi investigation, larger concerns loom about security and privacy. we will discuss them when chris hayes joins the panel just ahead. kathleen and susan are encouraging customers to shop local. they created ladies night in burbank, california, to boost sales staying open late. support your local retailers on november 24th for the third annual small business saturday. for more watch "your business" this sunday morning at 7:30 on msnbc. i'm only in my 60's... i've got a nice long life ahead. big plans. so when i found out medicare doesn't pay all my medical expenses, i looked at my options. then i got a medicare supplement insurance plan. [ male announcer ] if you're eligible for medicare, you may know it onl
to testify tomorrow. are you concerned over the way the fbi handled the situation so far? specifically when you look at this? do you think the president should have been told about the investigation earlier? >> well, i'm on homeland security and my first priority is to ensure the national security of this nation but as well i want to not have us forget that we lost four valiant americans and we must continue to mourn them. it must be a sad time for their family. but i believe in process. and i do believe there is a time when the president of the united states should be notified. however, the fbi proceeds in investigations all the times. we should have some standards as to whether or not the fbi was in order in looking at what i consider may have been private matters. if it had to do with national security or they thought a crime was in play and they had the right to do so, i don't think we have the necessary standards. it looks like we don't have a test or at least it seems that we as congresspersons are concerned, when is the test when the president should be notified? the key question tod
pursuit. >>> welcome back, everybody. new developments in the fbi investigation that ended with the resignation of cia director david petraeus. first, new information about the fbi agent who has now been identified. nbc has confirmed he is frederick humphries who worked on the bomb squad case. after kelley received e-mails from four or five alias counties. the e-mails have been traced back to petraeus biography paula broadwell, who remains at her brother's home in washington, d.c. he still has not commented on the case. there are new details to talk about. joining me is michael isikoff. what more have we learned about why kelley was concerned enough that the e-mails be forwarded to the fbi? >> we have learned a little bit more about the e-mails. remember, the first one actually goes to general allen in afghanistan from an e-mail account identified as kell kellkelly pat trt kelly patrol talking about his upcoming meeting with jill kelley in tampa. and what was most concerning about the e-mails, we're told from kelley's perspective is they seem to know the comings and goings
wants to have lunch in the obama white house. i mean, why not? >> and it happens. you write about an fbi investigation, and to attendant to that that paula broadwell almost became an fbi officer herself, right? >> i'm told that she actually applied, passed a polygraph and they were ready to offer her an appointment. >> she didn't take it because harvard called? >> i don't think it went too well at harvard. she could have been an agent. must have been surreal for her to be standing in her house with fbi agents searching her house and she was just a step away from becoming an agent. >> talk about fredrick humphries, the fbi agent who jill kelley contacted. what's his story? >> what's interesting is that, you know, this is the time where you're not liked in the bureau or the police department or whatever, this is when they start kicking, you know, when you're down already. and no one's kicking him. i mean they still speak pretty highly of him. he was in the terrorist task force himself. up in seattle. and he was the lead agent in the millennium bombing case. >> oh, yeah. >> did a great job.
to facilitate his affair with paula broadwell. officials say the cia has been told by the fbi that there is no indication petraeus misused classified material, but the investigation is open ended. today's hearing will not focus on that investigation, however. instead, lawmakers will question petraeus about the september 11th attack on the u.s. consulate in benghazi. >> director petraeus went to tripoli. he interviewed many of the people, as i understand it, that were involved. and so the opportunity to get his views, i think, are very important -- is very important. the purpose of this hearing is benghazi. we're not going in to the fbi investigation or the inspector general or anything else. this is benghazi. >> on thursday in a briefing which stretched more than three and a half hours, intelligence officials showed lawmakers real time film of the attack for the first time. >> the film is a composite from a number of sources. it is real time. it does begin from when the incident started and it goes through the incident. and the exodus. >> attorney general eric holder is defend
. >> reporter: the fbi continues looking through documents they took monday night from broadwell's home. but so far have found no evidence of anything highly classified. the pentagon suspended broadwell's security clearances and macdill air force base revoked jill kelley's pass to the base. >>> overseas now, fears of a new war in the middle east are on the rise after israelis took out the top military commander of hamas in a ferocious attack yesterday. and just this morning the first israeli fatalities of the renewed conflict, three people killed in rocket fire from the gaza strip. martin fletcher is live with the latest on this. martin, good morning. >> reporter: good morning, lynn. israel's army warned of dangerous days ahead. difficult days ahead. and they're already difficult enough. today israel is continuing its attacks on gaza, still targeting hamas militant leaders and in particular over the last 12, 16 hours attacking stockpiles of long range rockets that hamas has been building up in gaza. that's what israel says this is tack is all about. stopping hamas from the ability to attack isr
from the cia and the fbi, today both the house and senate intelligence committees will hear from former cia director david fets. >> he interviewed many of the people as i understand it that were involved so the opportunity to get his views i think is very important. >> reporter: the closed door hearing is not expected to get into the affair that prompted petraeus to resign. the cia is now investigating whether he did anything wrong professionally. the fbi concluded it was a personal matter. >> we made the determination as we were going through the matter that there was not a threat to national security. >> reporter: petraeus testifies today on the deadly attack that killed four americans in benghazi. thursday lawmakers saw realtime video of that attack and got in a heated shouting match over whether united nations ambassador susan rice intentionally misled the public when she said it was spontaneous. >> this administration include the president himself has intentionally misinformed and lied to the american people in the aftermath of this tragedy. >> if you want to know who is responsibl
the facts. we do not share outside the justice department, outside the fbi the facts of ongoing investigations. we made the determination as we were going through the matter that there was not a threat to national security. had we made the determination that a threat to national security existed, we would, of course, have made that known to the president and also to the appropriate members on the hill. >> now, with a pair of four-star generals being investigated, defense secretary leon panetta ordering a review of all military ethical standards, meanwhile, the fbi agent who helped trigger the initial investigation explaining that shirtless photo he sent jill kelley, one of the women at the center of the story. frederick humphries telling "the seattle times" he sent the photo to dozens adding it was meant to be a joke and not sexual at all. he could have kept his shirt on. in the image he's posing with target dummies. it reads which one is fred? i think he's the guy in the middle. now, ten days removed from the presidential election, a growing number of leading republicans are tr
was compromised. >>> meanwhile, the fbi agent who helped trigger an investigation that ultimately led to petraeus has been identified as this man, frederick humphries. humphries kick started the inquiry at the request of his friend jill kelley who complained about receiving harassing e-mails when the agency traced back to broadwell. broadwall was petraeus' biographer and the woman with whom he had that affair. the fbi is continuing to look through documents they took from broadwell's home monday night. so far agents have found no evidence of anything high lie classified. >>> tomorrow president obama sits down with congressional leaders to kick off negotiations on how to try to avoid the so-called fiscal cliff. yesterday's news conference really did set the tone for the meetings. the president was confident in reminding house republicans that he earned political capital on election day last week to push his plan for tax hikes on the wealthy. >> if there is one thing that everybody understood was a big difference between myself and mr. romney, it was when it comes to how we reduce our deficit, i ar
ayotte. and what's going on with the generals? leon panetta orders ethics review. the fbi agent, he's the guy who brought down the millennium bomber. >>> taking out the military leader of hamas and fire from the gaza strip. >> israel will continue to take whatever action is necessary to defend our people. >> we'll talk to michael oren, israel's ambassador to the united states. >>> and president obama at this hour in staten island to hear from storm victims. >>> plus, say cheese. new members of congress pose for their class photo. perhaps the last time they'll look this happy. >> good day. i'm andrea mitchell live in new york. as the nation learns about the key players and the controversy surrounding general david patreaus, successor at the cia on capitol hill briefing members of the house intelligence committee today. joining me now for our daily fix, chris cillizza managing editor of postpolitics.com, and kelly o'donnell and correspondent pete williams. pete, first to you. talk first about what is going on in the investigation? the fbi agent who was first only known as the person w
cost as much as $500,000 each. >>> to a breaking story in southern california. the fbi says a terror plot two years in the making has been thwarted. four men are training to join al qaeda and the taliban. their objective to kill, kidnap, name injure americans in afghanistan. we talked of blowing up a military base with a truck bomb. authorities say suspects spent time at shooting basing and spent time studying anwar al maliki. >>> following the deadly consulate attack in benghazi, top intelligence officials tell nbc news they knew it was a terrorist attack from the start. but that it is could also have been spontaneous. and they say it was the intelligence community not the white house that wrote the talking points delivered by ambassador susan rice. 97 house republicans have signed a letter to the president opposing rice's potential nomination as secretary of state. >>> now to a check of your weather we turn to nbc meteorologist bill karins with the weather forecast. something important coming up later this week. >> easy one, too. the northwest has been getting hard. good morning, e
between the two apparently happened after bro broadwell admitted to the fbi that she and petraeus had an affair. we get our "1st look" at the fbi agent who actually started the investigation that led to the cia director's resignation. this is frederick w. humphreys ii, a personal friend of jill kelley. lawmakers have to wait another day before hearing general petraeus's testimony on benghazi. there were questions of whether the former cia director would take part in the house intelligence committee. instead he will appear behind closed doors with both intelligence committees tomorrow where leaders will zero in on all of the information they have been wanting to get from him. let me bring in nbc news capitol hill correspondent kelly o'donnell. she's standing by. kelly, there's a new report out today that in the last few days of his tenure with the cia that general petraeus really wanted a time line of events and some other information released, perhaps clarify the cia and the information it had. >> well, they've been trying to piece together information, and petraeus was part of trying
folks from the cia, the fbi, the national intelligence office and they are learning some of the time line. we are told they're getting a sense of what was known, and why did this whole controversy bubble up about a video, a spontaneous protest or an intentional act of terror, which is such a part of the political dynamic here. what we hear from members who were in the earlier briefing, the senate briefing is happening right now, is that there was a difference in the nature of the attacks. the first wave of the attack appeared more chaotic. the second attack went on over a period of seven hours appeared far more coordinated with command and control, the ability to bring weaponry, things like that, that cause some of this unease about how to decide who was behind it and what was going on. when you talk about frustrations, there are those political frustrations but also a lot of frustrations here about wanting to get to the bottom of it to know what happened, why chris stevens, the ambassador, his pleas for additional security, his warnings about dangers in the area may not have been ad
questionable and the fbi agent with the shirtless photo -- >> because now explained as a joke. i've watched it myself. >> the twin sister with the custody dispute. i mean really, stephen colbert last night said the story jumped the shark and brought susan lieu ki on to keep it going. it's a story of hubris combined with flawed people with a modern story of technology ensnarg all of us. >> we have to run. you went to harvard, you know the drill. a story in "the washington post" that paula broadwell just from the get-go, enters the masters program -- enters the ph.d. program, leaves with a masters. questions about resume enhan enhanceme enhancement, her academic work not being up to par. >> it's a terrific story by my colleagues. read it on washingtonpost.com they would want me to say. it raises questions about her determination and and her ability to really work the system. >> ruth and thanks to kelly o'donnell who will be on the hill tracking everything that happens up there. and the other big story that kelly is following that we're all following is the fiscal cliff. the talks. joining me
, this and is not my recollection. >> he also knew he was under investigation by the fbi, speaking of general petraeus. that's the big question. >> then the president is saying i didn't know until two days after the election. >> i have to say this, that speculation is absolutely reckless and it has no fact base at all and it really is a disgrace to a man. >> haen days are, indeed, here again. ♪ >> after a hard-won re-election fight, it's been a high-stakes return to the business of governing for the president of the united states. today he hosted congressional leaders at the white house to begin working on what he called the urgent business of reaching an agreement on taxes and spending cuts by the end of next month. this afternoon the president greeted a diverse range of civic leaders at the white house and, of course, he's preparing for his impending tour of southeast asia which begins at the week end. so that's what's been going on at the white house. or is it? >> the president of the united states did not tell the american people the truth about the attacks that took four brave americans' lives.
. >>> the fbi uncovers an alleged plot to kill americans overseas and that tops our look at stories around the news nation today. four southern california men have been charged with conspiring to engage in violent jihad. the fbi says the men were planning to join al qaeda and they were planning to bomb the facilities and public places. >>> the indianapolis house explosion is now considered a homicide investigation. federal authorities are offering a $10,000 reward for information in the case. >>> a fierce storm has brought floods, winds and heavy rains to oregon and washington state. at least one death has been blamed on the storm. 50,000 people are currently without power there. >>> kevin clash, behind the elmo character on "sesame street" has resigned. this comes after a second person has come forward with a lawsuit accusing clash of having sex with him when he was underage. now, in a statement "sesame street" workshops says the allegations against clash had become a distraction. >>> next in today's news nation, do you think egypt can convince hamas to stop firing on israel? how you can
questions in the petraeus scandal like why did the fbi keep investigating the cia director if he committed no crime? and could petraeus have resigned for basically nothing? joining us from minneapolis is former cia officer criminal defense attorney jack rice. good to have you here. this new "washington post"/abc poll finds out that even after he resigned people see general david petraeus in a favorable light. could the president bring him back, nominate him as the next cia director? do you think that's way too far off the map? >> it probably is way too far off the map. realistically, now, you have to look at anybody in his position, anybody at the flagship level if you will. these guys are politicians in the first place. that was before he was director of cia. come in as director, generally speaking you're still a politician. it's hard to bring them back. there is a political cost to it. in fact, there's been some other names that are out there that maybe more likely than what we've seen from the president at this point. >> let's talk act those other possible names, the replacements. we ha
reveals as to whether or not he misused resources. tell me what is the fbi's conclusion about the documents, the chas fied documents that broad broadwell allegedly had on her computer. what is going to happen with general allen, the war chief, he had 20 thousand pages back and forth with jill kelley, the social it that paula broadwell was e-mailing and only five were of a questionable nature. you have all of these facts swirling and lives and reputations in the balance being judged. i want to get down to the bottom of the facts. it's not my job to judge these people. >> okay. kimberly dozier, many thanks. great conversation. appreciate it. >> thank you. >>> has technology reduced the violence in the middle east? we will look at the iron dome defense system coming up. try running four.ning a restaurant is hard, fortunately we've got ink. it gives us 5x the rewards on our internet, phone charges and cable, plus at office supply stores. rewards we put right back into our business. this is the only thing we've ever wanted to do and ink helps us do it. make your mark with ink from
to. >> mike barnicle, you are our crime correspondent. what's fbi director mueller saying this morning? this is, of course, the agent that began the cyber investigation that brought down general petraeus and is about to bring down the top general in afghanistan. he sent this picture to jill kelley who then decided to go to him later on to start a cyber investigation because a woman had sent her an e-mail that said nani, nani pooh-pooh. >> i think based on my knowledge of director mueller, he is probably looking at that picture and looking at the fact that that fbi agent cold called a republican congressman to report what was going on. >> just for the record, he sent this, he says, to doz dozens of people as a joke. >> that's supposed to make us feel better. >> i just said for the record. >> if anthony wiener had only come up with that excuse, he'd still be in congress right now. i tweeted that to all my followers. >> let's wait until all this cools off. they have the ongoing investigation, a month or two down the road. >> yeah. >> let's reassign this agent to, you know, an
at the other stories topping the news now. the fbi has arrested four california men who allegedly planned to join al qaeda and the taliban. the men are charged with plotting violent jihad against americans overseas. a house explosion that damaged 8 homes is now a homicide investigation. police have yet to name a suspect. >>> no more nudity in san francisco. city officials will vote later today on an ordinance that could permanently ban public nudity but there would be certain exemptions. apparently chimps and orangutans can experience midlife crisis like humans. the suggestions or the root cause of mid-life crisis could be biological. >>> and the 2012 treetoper for the rockefeller center christmas tree was unveiled this hour. it includes 25,000 crystals and weighs a whopping 550 pounds. quite a mega star. another business win. i'll set up the video conference to iron out the details. this cdw cloud collaboration powered by cisco is pretty amazing. we interact with our offices, anywhere, anytime. charles, you're one of the greatest losers of all time. thank you. throughout our lives. one a
papers." "the new york times," the fbi agent who initiated the investigation that led to the discovery of cia director david petraeus's affair has been identified as frederick humphries. humphries began the investigation after jill kelley complained of harassing e-mails which later turned out to be paula broadwell, the biographer. humphries is a veteran agent who has helped investigate high-profile terror suspects like the so-called millennium bomber. >>> "washington post," nearly 50 million people in the united states are in poverty. up from last year, according to the census. a new formula shows more people relying on safety nets as higher costs of living and medical expenses sent poverty members upward. california, the district of columbia, arizona, florida and georgia top the list of places with the highest levels of poverty. >> from our parade of papers, "the cedar rapids gazette," fema may need to request a congressional bailout as flood claims from sandy quadruple capacity. it's a fema subsidiary and claims from sandy could top $12 billion. the program's essentially the country'
by the i.g. and the d.o.g. and the fbi and the cia and that might have something to do with it. it is a situation that has turned tampa, and again, we have seen it on "saturday night live" running the humorous skit, but at the heart of it is macdill air force base which is right now observing events in israel, they don't control the military affairs there, but over in egypt as well as the rest of the region, so they have a lot on their mind as well as u.s. special options command and as well as the area that brings in millions off dollars into the local community. so it is a mandate to engage with the community and that is what parts of this "friends with macdill" was. >> well, talk about the probe and how that it is run to investigate and reveal, i guess, how many people around the community have access to the nation's military leaders. >> no, they know. there's about 800 people on the "friends of macdill" program and created by the previous base commanders to get community leaders on to the base in daylight hours and nonsecure areas to engage with the community. what they are
about the fbi being supported. it's all affected by sequestration. the key here is whether or not the republicans will move away from the ideologically rigid position, which has been the grover norquist pledge, which most of them signed, that they will not go for additional revenues. when they move away from that pledge, and they must, as by the way all the presidents that i have ever served with, including reagan, clinton, and the first george bush, moved away from a position no additional taxes. they all added revenues to deficit reduction. a significant amount of revenue. >> your colleague from georgia just this week said the following about that pledge not to raise any taxes. >> you know, that pledge i signed 20 years ago was valid then. it's valid now, but times have changed significantly.Ñi and i care more about this country than i do about a 20-year-old pledge. >> it is my view that the issue of taxes is the number one stumbling block to any kind of fiscal deal. that has to be resolved first before you can get to issues like sequestration. when you hear that from a
, four men from california under arrest on terror charges right now. the fbi says the men were arrested friday accused of plotting to kill americans here and overseas by joining al qaeda and the taliban in afghanistan. one of the suspects is a former member of the u.s. air force. we're also following a developing story out of miami where police say a 13-year-old girl was shot onboard a private transportation school bus. she has been airlifted to miami children's hospital. we are still awaiting word on her condition. police are questioning someone right now. it's unclear if it's a fellow student. >>> an explosion that damaged up to 30 homes in indianapolis neighborhood is now being investigated as a homicide. two people were killed in the blast earlier this month and now investigators say they don't think this was an accident. they're looking for a white van seen in the neighborhood right before the explosion. >>> there's a new push to make hiv screening as routine as cholesterol checks and mammograms. an independent task force is advising the government all americans from 15 to 64 shoul
and foremost, lobbying a little too hard for that vacant seat in the u.s. senate and fbi wire taps were allies of rod blog blog, the convicted governor, millions of 2k dollars and then revelation of an extramarital affair well a washington bikini model and waitress and then you have word of his being diagnosed with bipolar disorder and hospitalized at the mayor clinic and then last but not least, the fact that he's under a federal investigation for apparent misuse of campaign funds. everything came crashing very quickly. >> it sure did. but here is something that was rather shocking. he was effectively able to disappear for months and yet he got re-elected to his seat. how did that happen? >> yeah. he didn't campaign for one single minute. >> yep. >> the two candidates against him, they were no serious opposition against him. he was a potent name in that community. the core of that constituency african-americans were rather sympathetic when word got out about some of this trouble, notably his medical problems. but there is no doubt because that district is not totally african-american. they've
of the rewriting of those talking points was done by the fbi to take out al qaeda references, not by the zewe we had been told by the director of national intelligence came from the intelligence committee. it's worse than when she went up. she'll see bob corker, known to be bipartisan from tennessee and i don't think it'll be quite as vitriolic as yesterday. she felt she wanted to clear her name and she had been maligned and just been on morning television. that the real issue as jay carney was trying to say what happened before, what happened during but not what happened on sunday morning television programs and there is an investigation that hillary clinton has commissioned. it is a legally mandated investigation being led by none other than the former chairman, joint chief, mike ullin and co-chaired from mike pickering and deputy secretary of state. it's going to be coming out in mid-december and reported to congress and i understand it's going to be very tough on the state department for not ramping up security which many people believe could be the real issue here, not what was said on sund
's the surveillance state aspect of it. why was the fbi raiding his e-mail and what is the threshold for that? then i think the way in which the mythology that david petraeus cultivated around himself. it was a combination of performance in the battled field, i'm not the best judge of this, substantively quite good along with a savvy way of getting the press to go along with the story he was telling about david petraeus. one of the things we're seeing in the context of this decade is the military is the most trusted institution in american life. part of that has to do with the military divide, tom ricks was saying 1% of the people population fight all of the wars, 80% when you don't count family members, don't care. a lot of it is not registering in the american public's mind. when that detachment happens, the distance allows us from a safe move to say i trust the military. the people who are in the military have extremely complicated questions about whether or not to trust the military because people who are in any institution, public school teachers have complicated feelings about the public school
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